Friday, 22 January 2010

Democracy and its Discontents II

If you imagine the above scene being enacted by 'two numpties from Inverness' (in the words of my sparring partner) you'll get an impression of the fierce debate we had recently on the works and thought of David Icke.

My line of thought was somewhat Platonic: it's not impossible that lizard people are running the world, and it's an interesting thought experiment based on their track record of being complete bastards though it is of course very unlikely that they have done so, and even more unlikely that they'd be rumbled by an erstwhile Sports Presenter . My friend's counter argument was that... well, pretty much the same except with a greater emphasis upon the very unlikely and took a more Aristotelian view of the whole thing.

Still, reading today's Graun actually seemed to give credence to the ideas that our politicians may not be entirely human.

Two sadistic kids tortured two other kids. The victims probably haven't been discharged from hospital yet and already the melon-headed leader of HM Opposition is thinking of how to get some votes from it.

'Cameron will give a string of examples of "the moral failure of Labour's approach".

"When parents are rewarded for splitting up, when professionals are told that it's better to follow rules than do what they think is best, when single parents find they take home less for working more, when young people learn that it pays not to get a job, when the kind-hearted are discouraged from doing good in their community, is it any wonder our society is broken?

"We can't go on like this."

In other words, if you pay people income support because their work applications have been rejected, they will start torturing each other. Being too good to the poor just results in the buggers inflicting GBH on each other. There was no such thing as torture or assault before Atlee's welfare state.

Whereas if the Eton eloi and their chums are left free from progressive taxation and allowed to just get on with it, the proles will turn back to their natural yeoman state, doffing their caps at their betters and living in sun-drenched harmony.

Needless to say, this will be lapped up by many voters.

And this is the system that our politicians think should be spread round the world at gunpoint.

UPDATE: I cut and pasted these quotes from the Guardian article, though they have now been deleted. Does this mean that The Guardian printed inaccurate quotes or that Cameron now knows that it was a bad idea? In which case Te Graun is supporting the Tory leader. What gives?


  1. I don't even want to immagine what happened in the slums of Victorian London.

  2. Oddly enough, Brits have a very nostalgiac view of the Victorian Era. Not, like me, the view that there were some incredible achievements of the time, but an unnacceptable human cost both at home and abroad, but a sincere belief that things were like 'Oliver!'

    I thought John Gray (cheers for the vid on your page) made an excellent point that Thatcher's dream vision of Britain was less like the Victorian era than it was like the dirigisme but socially conservative Britain of the '50s.